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fog_of_redoubt · Nov 06, 2008, 11:02 PM // 23:02

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Originally Posted by SmithyBen

better than nothing... some people aye? Some of you have to remember that they odn't need to give us anything extra.

And WE don't need to buy their next game.

They give us stuff to keep us around as an installed base of hopefully purchasing customers of GW2. They DON'T give us stuff because they are cool and like us. Some people aye?

Bekkr · Nov 06, 2008, 11:15 PM // 23:15

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

I like how one ANet member says that the absence of a staff member caused the delay, and another says it was planned. Who to believe, who to believe...

It certainly gives some insight into what Anet might be telling (or NOT telling) their CR managers. I remember similar snafus with Gaile giving out incorrect and/or incomplete info. It all seems very cloak and dagger, doesn't it? "Need to know basis" and all that.

Free Runner · Nov 06, 2008, 11:21 PM // 23:21

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Who to believe, who to believe...

How about both of them.

Regina said that the absence of staff would cause the Tournament Points to be delayed and put out with the November 13th Update. She never said that it also caused the title balance to be delayed - it was just instantly assumed that the title balance was also pushed back.

Arkantos · Nov 06, 2008, 11:30 PM // 23:30

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Originally Posted by Free Runner

How about both of them.

Regina said that the absence of staff would cause the Tournament Points to be delayed and put out with the November 13th Update. She never said that it also caused the title balance to be delayed - it was just instantly assumed that the title balance was also pushed back.

When she says an update was pushed back due to the absence of a staff member and another update due the same day was pushed back, it seems like the absence of the staff member also caused the delay of the title balance. She said there was an absence of a staff member and the title balance was pushed back, she never said the title balance was purposely delayed. Maybe Regina is confused, maybe I was confused (I'm assuming I was), but she should be making things like this more clear.

SerenitySilverstar · Nov 06, 2008, 11:37 PM // 23:37

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Originally Posted by fog_of_redoubt

And WE don't need to buy their next game.

Threats like those are about as useless as internet petitions.

Gamer: "Yeah well...*splutter spluterr* I'm not going to buy your next game! Neener!"

Gaming Company: "Fine. *shrug* We have multiple venues of marketing. There's always another generation of gamers coming through."

A11Eur0 · Nov 06, 2008, 11:37 PM // 23:37

Sound like more BS to me. Regina...you hardly ever give us any information and now it seems that you're giving us lame unnecessary excuses. Fail.

Serenity...when the reputation of the company spreads like wildfire through the gaming community, it affects their sales and the likelihood of that next generation of gamers being interested in their product. When they make a sequel to a game and piss off the original players of that game, they lose a big fanbase and make for a wealth of information about their business practices for new players to base their purchasing decisions on.

SerenitySilverstar · Nov 06, 2008, 11:47 PM // 23:47

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

wealth of information about their business practices for new players to base their purchasing decisions on.

That "wealth of information" you find in gaming forums is nothing but subjective OPINION.

Anyone who makes a decision about a company based on posts like "Anet Phailz" need their head read.

fog_of_redoubt · Nov 06, 2008, 11:50 PM // 23:50

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Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar

Threats like those are about as useless as internet petitions.

Gamer: "Yeah well...*splutter spluterr* I'm not going to buy your next game! Neener!"

Gaming Company: "Fine. *shrug* We have multiple venues of marketing. There's always another generation of gamers coming through."

You missed the point entirely... but that is to be expected...

I didn't threaten to not buy the next game. I was pointing out that they do these updates to keep the installed base around. The installed base will most likely be 100% business on the ist day of the game. The larger that installed base the larger the 1st day/week of sales will be.

Updates, events, etc, are to try to maintain the size of the installed/active base of customers. They aren't done because they like us.

SerenitySilverstar · Nov 07, 2008, 12:25 AM // 00:25

And I still believe you're over estimating your power as a consumer.

Regina Buenaobra · Nov 07, 2008, 02:02 AM // 02:02

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Originally Posted by Free Runner

How about both of them.

Regina said that the absence of staff would cause the Tournament Points to be delayed and put out with the November 13th Update. She never said that it also caused the title balance to be delayed - it was just instantly assumed that the title balance was also pushed back.

Correct.

We had planned to separate the builds and split them to a build on November 6 for tonics, skill balances, and tournament points (points delayed to Nov 13) and a build on November 13 for the title re-balance. This decision has been in place for a while.

Massive Fire Balls · Nov 07, 2008, 02:10 AM // 02:10

so the skill update is still on for today?? it is a little late

Regina Buenaobra · Nov 07, 2008, 02:18 AM // 02:18

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Originally Posted by Massive Fire Balls

so the skill update is still on for today?? it is a little late

It's late in the day for us, yes.

If you're saying the update is "late" today, er... Where are you getting your scheduling information?

Massive Fire Balls · Nov 07, 2008, 02:21 AM // 02:21

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

It's late in the day for us, yes.

If you're saying the update is "late" today, er... Where are you getting your scheduling information?

just saying its a little late at night for me

sry

WhiteWasabi · Nov 07, 2008, 02:25 AM // 02:25

Since you don't do in game chats that I have ever seen....Where should we be getting our information from?

You guys stopped doing in game chats and now I need to check like 14 different places to see if there is any new news. I need to read your wiki page, Gaile's Wiki Page, Linsey's Wiki page, Guru, + other fan sites????

*oh yeah* + the Guild Wars Website, and wikis developer notes...... the list goes on.

esthetic · Nov 07, 2008, 02:59 PM // 14:59

Uhhggg!!!

By doing this Xunlai Tourney House Reward pts system, ANet created expection from all who make predictions monthly and has phailed to meet them for so many for the last three or four months.

Just get rid of the Xunlai Tourney House Reward Pts all together for predictions.

Problem solved!!

The complainers kinda remind me of what people on public aid (welfare) do when their aid checks get delayed or cut.... Like aid checks the XTH reward pts has the unfortunate tendancy to make certain people dependant and lazy. Some players now generally think that the monthly reward pts for 10-20 Z Keys per account is an entitlement and not a bonus. This prediction system was intended to make GW more entertaining and make players more happy, but it has ended up making people pissed off.

The First Silvari · Nov 07, 2008, 07:09 PM // 19:09

Oh noes!! Anet cant stop the XTH prediction rewards!! I bought 5 copies of GW on sale (7.99 a copy) just because of this!!

Kashrlyyk · Nov 07, 2008, 09:33 PM // 21:33

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Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar

That "wealth of information" you find in gaming forums is nothing but subjective OPINION.

Anyone who makes a decision about a company based on posts like "Anet Phailz" need their head read.

You are underestimating the importance of "Word of mouth". Besides unhappy customers tell 9 people, happy tell 5. If a friend tells me the game and/or the company is shit, I am not going to buy it or any product from the company.

fog_of_redoubt · Nov 07, 2008, 10:20 PM // 22:20

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Originally Posted by The First Silvari

Oh noes!! Anet cant stop the XTH prediction rewards!! I bought 5 copies of GW on sale (7.99 a copy) just because of this!!

Beats buying gold any day doesn't it...

BenjZee · Nov 07, 2008, 11:28 PM // 23:28

We got the update for skills in the end and these points don't come until next week so why complain? As stated it was kind of obvious that both reasons that were given were genuine, why would they lie as such? Then you say that Regina doens't do anything. How many times does it have to be said that She does alot of other things besides talk to players.. Giving information? - its best not to say stuff as they could change their mind at any point and it will upset alot more people.

Kronos Ledaloth · Nov 08, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57

Nice, 13th november we'll get our tournament points